tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7788828372503525295.post4886366653841905837..comments2022-03-30T02:46:17.921-04:00Comments on Muttpuppies on Trial: Goldendoodles on Trialmuttpuppiesontrialhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14214631151798045885noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7788828372503525295.post-69893433295909700532008-11-29T10:13:00.000-05:002008-11-29T10:13:00.000-05:00The show bred goldens are the ones that don't live...The show bred goldens are the ones that don't live very long. My field type dogs get 13-15 years. I just lost one at 14. A decade ago, it was common for goldens to live that long. Part of the reason is that 1. They aren't as inbred. 2. their bodies are more "natural," not as much wear and tear on them. These dogs get cancer, almost all of them, but it's in the mid-teens, not at 10 or 11 or earlier.<BR/><BR/><BR/>It's hard to find the old type golden, though, in part because of goldendoodles. Everyone who has a "red dog" is breeding it a poodle, because pure goldens that are dark are hard to sell. So the profit breeders and backyarders are using what are really the better goldens (I've never had one with bad hips) and breeding them to poodles. Plus, people actually are deluded into thinking that you can combine working and show lines in goldens and have a dual purpose dog (there are less than ten dual purpose goldens and Labs in the whole country).<BR/><BR/>I'd actually like to try a goldendoodle out as a working dog. They actually resemble an extinct breed of water dog called the English Rough Water Dog. It was the ancestor the water spaniels and was probably related to the Barbet, the Iberian water dogs, the Lagotto, and the German water dogs that became the poodle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7788828372503525295.post-61520403188496930612008-10-01T13:58:00.000-04:002008-10-01T13:58:00.000-04:00Ya know, I have to admit that of all the designer ...Ya know, I have to admit that of all the designer mutts out there, Labradoodles and Goldendoodles are some of the cutest I've seen. There are several in this neighborhood. Even I however, would be hard pressed unless I got up close and personal with them to tell which is which.<BR/>Several problems with this cross however. Not the least of which is that there is a big difference between crossing a Golden with a Standard Poddle and crossing one with a Miniature Poodle. Shelties are not just Collies bred down. Standard Schnauzers and Miniature Schauzers are barely related. Standard Poodles and Miniature Poodles are not made up of the same breeds. Standard Poodles are happy, goofy, water-loving retrievers, and consistently listed in the top three on a list of the smartest breeds. Miniature Poodles are a helluva lot more like terriers - yappy, insecure, protective, and not necessarily the sharpest knife in the drawer. <BR/>At least Standard Poodles and Golden are on a similar branch of the dog tree as far as what they were bred to do and what kind of personality they have. Mini poods. and Goldens or Labs couldn't be farther from each other and lumping all Poodles together as something to make a "Doodle" can be confusing for designer mutt seekers. <BR/>Second, Standard Poodles as I just mentioned are already low-shedding, low-allergen producing, smart, goofy, fun, athletic family dogs. WHY is there a need to cross them with a Golden or Lab to get the same thing? It's a waste. It tells me that people who do this, despite getting some lovely dogs out of these crosses on occasion don't even know or are intentionally duping the buying public into thinking, that ALL sizes of Poodle are the same. Goldens and Labs especially shed like you wouldn't believe and come with their own set of potential genetic problems. WHY would you want to take the chance of introducing that to the Standard Poodle? Again, idiots that don't know the first thing about genetics always seem to have the most sure ideas about what they're breeding for. Ug.water_bearerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03032301103681547230noreply@blogger.com